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Touch with Substance – Episode3: Neo-Shamanic IFS, Ethical Touch, and the Edges of Consent with Sabrina Santa Clara & Suz Vera Burroughs

Dear Community,

I’m joined again by the luminous Sabrina Santa Clara, a seasoned somatic therapist and spiritual director known for her work at the intersection of embodiment, trauma, and expanded states for a deep, nuanced conversation about physical contact, consent, and expanded states of consciousness.

One of the most exciting threads in this episode is our discussion of Neo-shamanic Internal Family Systems (IFS). Together, we explore what ethical, attuned touch can look like in psychedelic spaces and why it’s not as simple as “yes” or “no” when we are doing parts work. Join us as we explore how parts work shows up somatically in psychedelic practice.

What you’ll hear:

  • Where does IFS fall short, and what is Neo-shamanic IFS?
  • How parts work and dynamic consent may look a little different
  • The risks of part-led facilitation and unresolved provider dynamics
  • Consent of facilitators and clients with channeled presences and representing other beings
  • How to develop a felt location for a "yes" and consent in the body
  • How a broader understanding of parts and constellation work reframes our roles as guides, representatives, and witnesses

Whether you work with expanded states or are simply soma-curious, this episode is for you! We expand the meaning of soma not just as a body to be touched or treated, but as a whole, living terrain of sensation, memory, spirit, environment, and knowing.

With warmth and gratitude,
Suz Vera
Unwind Learning

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Suz is the Managing Owner at Unwind Oakland, Unwind Learning, and Touch with Substance. Designed above-ground Ketamine-Assisted Massage Therapy and bodywork (KATM) in partnership with KAT and KAP providers as well as developed psychedelic/entheogenic preparation and integration bodywork methods. In 2023, published the first NCBTMB board approved continuing education course for massage therapists and bodyworkers on the topic of psychedelics and entheogens: Introduction to Psychedelic Conversations and the Massage Table. Completed core facilitator training at Sacred Garden in 2024. She is continuing with their Ordained Facilitator Training (in progress). Active participant in the process of crafting the details of California Senate Bill 1012. Suz stands for equitable access to services, a broad pool of facilitators, and the protection of sincere religious practice including indigenous autonomy. Teaches workshops such as Ethical Safety and Support Touch for Guides, Traditional Healers, Psychotherapists, and Witnesses in multiple languages and in cross-cultural groups. Working with Ethical Psychedelic International Community (EPIC) to seed public guidelines and resources on psychedelics and touch. Producing the upcoming Touch with Substance Conference (2024). When she’s not at the office, she’s enjoying time with her dog and exploring Oakland where she’s lived since 2003.

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